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		<title>Comment on Sad dives by Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you may have been missing something:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/article4466515.ece

I believe that they do manage to touch the water too now, but only if there is time available.
Crystal Palace is the one and only diving centre for the whole of London, its&#039; not easy to have the space for training so I believe that dry training is also a necessity to make up for the lack of opportunities.
And when Crystal Palace closed for removal of asbestos the dry training was all they could do.

The Amateur Swimming Association  initiative &quot;flip and fun&quot;, also carried out in our borough revolves around having kids jumping on mattresses to  introduce them to diving and identify those that may be worth training in the hope that some Olympic champion emerges. This is an artificial promotion of a sport that doesn&#039;t exist anymore because of the lack of facilities. if there were opportunities to dive in pools they wouldn&#039;t have to do this.
And even if kids learn to dive on mattresses but then there are no pools where they can do it for the rest of their life then what&#039;s the meaning (besides finding suitable Olympic champions)?

Diving as a sport is in a comatose situation, almost obliterated by the removal of diving boards and the new generation of pools that are too shallow for any board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you may have been missing something:<br />
<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/article4466515.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/article4466515.ece</a></p>
<p>I believe that they do manage to touch the water too now, but only if there is time available.<br />
Crystal Palace is the one and only diving centre for the whole of London, its&#8217; not easy to have the space for training so I believe that dry training is also a necessity to make up for the lack of opportunities.<br />
And when Crystal Palace closed for removal of asbestos the dry training was all they could do.</p>
<p>The Amateur Swimming Association  initiative &#8220;flip and fun&#8221;, also carried out in our borough revolves around having kids jumping on mattresses to  introduce them to diving and identify those that may be worth training in the hope that some Olympic champion emerges. This is an artificial promotion of a sport that doesn&#8217;t exist anymore because of the lack of facilities. if there were opportunities to dive in pools they wouldn&#8217;t have to do this.<br />
And even if kids learn to dive on mattresses but then there are no pools where they can do it for the rest of their life then what&#8217;s the meaning (besides finding suitable Olympic champions)?</p>
<p>Diving as a sport is in a comatose situation, almost obliterated by the removal of diving boards and the new generation of pools that are too shallow for any board.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sad dives by Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max, maybe I&#039;m missing something here, but surely they do some training on technique or whatever on the gym equipment then hone their skills in the pools afterwards? I&#039;m not suggesting that the conditions are satisfactory - they sound a long way from it, but your post made it sound like they didn&#039;t get to use the pools, which surely they do?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max, maybe I&#8217;m missing something here, but surely they do some training on technique or whatever on the gym equipment then hone their skills in the pools afterwards? I&#8217;m not suggesting that the conditions are satisfactory &#8211; they sound a long way from it, but your post made it sound like they didn&#8217;t get to use the pools, which surely they do?!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sad dives by Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Claire. It&#039;s baffling how some ideas that make sense are so hard to push through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Claire. It&#8217;s baffling how some ideas that make sense are so hard to push through.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sad dives by Clare Griffiths</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said and good on you for keeping up the pressure on this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said and good on you for keeping up the pressure on this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sad dives by Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;d be about time someone took the lead on this. Those pictures show a completely ludicrous reality.
Preparing for Olympic diving on mattresses? It&#039;s like a Monty Python sketch.

But apart from the Olympic standard, what about the general grassroots sports opportunities? 
There is now a diktat to make new swimming pools all of 25m length and a maximum of 2m deep, economic and advisable for neighbourhood pools but surely inadequate for what we &#039;d call borough flagship pools, those facilities that should be the intermediate level between the neighbourhood facility and the Olympic standard. Longer pools with deeper end to allow some diving, just like Ladywell Pool.
There used to be a network of them and like Ladywell pool they are being replaced with lower specification pools. 
The new generation of pools is killing sports like diving and with them much of the fun that surrounds aquatic sports with repercussions on the level of participation across the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;d be about time someone took the lead on this. Those pictures show a completely ludicrous reality.<br />
Preparing for Olympic diving on mattresses? It&#8217;s like a Monty Python sketch.</p>
<p>But apart from the Olympic standard, what about the general grassroots sports opportunities?<br />
There is now a diktat to make new swimming pools all of 25m length and a maximum of 2m deep, economic and advisable for neighbourhood pools but surely inadequate for what we &#8216;d call borough flagship pools, those facilities that should be the intermediate level between the neighbourhood facility and the Olympic standard. Longer pools with deeper end to allow some diving, just like Ladywell Pool.<br />
There used to be a network of them and like Ladywell pool they are being replaced with lower specification pools.<br />
The new generation of pools is killing sports like diving and with them much of the fun that surrounds aquatic sports with repercussions on the level of participation across the board.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sad dives by Cllr Tom Papworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cllr Tom Papworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The decision to downgrade the diving facilities at the National Sports Stadium at Crystal Palace has significantly reduced diving provision in South London. I think that there may now be &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; olympic-standard diving facilities in the area.

It may be worth challenging Labour with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The decision to downgrade the diving facilities at the National Sports Stadium at Crystal Palace has significantly reduced diving provision in South London. I think that there may now be <i>no</i> olympic-standard diving facilities in the area.</p>
<p>It may be worth challenging Labour with this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oysters are expensive by Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like a bloggers summit is coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a bloggers summit is coming.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oysters are expensive by Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Doom&#039;s back on? I&#039;m there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Doom&#8217;s back on? I&#8217;m there!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oysters are expensive by Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Darryl, it&#039;s indeed an absurd system and I think that as most people realize it now inevitably it will change, I think that the question is when and how, not if. 

I&#039;m really pleased with what the net is doing to  this, in the past few days there has been a degree of  scrutiny from bloggers that has become a natural public consultation, information are available, explained and broken down into  easy to digest chunks and a well informed consensus is arising.
So pushing for a change earlier rather than later is well worth the effort and at this stage a public debating it before national politicians put their hats into it makes it more likely to be a healthier bottom up change rather than a top down and this may mean that when it changes it does so in a better way then it would if it was left to  quangos and organized consultations.

On the other subject the Jolly Farmer is at its best now, and this without mentioning the guest ale... Doom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darryl, it&#8217;s indeed an absurd system and I think that as most people realize it now inevitably it will change, I think that the question is when and how, not if. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m really pleased with what the net is doing to  this, in the past few days there has been a degree of  scrutiny from bloggers that has become a natural public consultation, information are available, explained and broken down into  easy to digest chunks and a well informed consensus is arising.<br />
So pushing for a change earlier rather than later is well worth the effort and at this stage a public debating it before national politicians put their hats into it makes it more likely to be a healthier bottom up change rather than a top down and this may mean that when it changes it does so in a better way then it would if it was left to  quangos and organized consultations.</p>
<p>On the other subject the Jolly Farmer is at its best now, and this without mentioning the guest ale&#8230; Doom.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oysters are expensive by Darryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words, Max. To me it shows the disregard national politicians have for London - we&#039;re lumbered with a broken system that the ex-Labour mayor, the current Tory mayor, and I suspect the Assembly Lib Dems all hate. But their national leaderships just plough on anyway. 

From your other post, good to see the Jolly Farmers is back on song as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words, Max. To me it shows the disregard national politicians have for London &#8211; we&#8217;re lumbered with a broken system that the ex-Labour mayor, the current Tory mayor, and I suspect the Assembly Lib Dems all hate. But their national leaderships just plough on anyway. </p>
<p>From your other post, good to see the Jolly Farmers is back on song as well!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The cost of security by Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sue,

the issue for me is what would have been the cost to keep it in working order if instead of closing it when the Ladywell Gymnastic Club relocated they had done some basic maintenance and allocated it to some other suitable tenants. Back then it wasn&#039;t falling down the way it does now and £420k pay for a  lot of works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p>the issue for me is what would have been the cost to keep it in working order if instead of closing it when the Ladywell Gymnastic Club relocated they had done some basic maintenance and allocated it to some other suitable tenants. Back then it wasn&#8217;t falling down the way it does now and £420k pay for a  lot of works.</p>
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