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		<title>Comment on Public meeting on Loampit Vale by Max</title>
		<link>http://maxink.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/public-meeting-on-loampit-vale/#comment-1916</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi  Ian,

first of all we should not mix Councillors voting as members of a planning committee and a party policies.
Planning committees (and licensing committees) are the two quasi-judicial committees of the Council and members are free to vote as they wish, their position is similar to those of Court Jurors as just like Courts they rule over private matters. it&#039;s illegal for a party to put party pressure on an individual member to vote in a specific way at a planning committee.

The planning consent given in 2006 to the Kids Korner was given for the conversion of the existing building into residential on condition it would keep  the present look on the high street.
I think it&#039;s regrettable that such consent was given but those that are most to blame are the planning officers.
They go through the applications with the developers, advise them how to best present it, push for housing and give advise to members on how to vote and please note how to vote within the law.
If the officers&#039; advise does not contains ground for rejection and the objections don&#039;t give ground for legally rejecting a planning application then committee members will have a hard time try to reject an application. They would in fact be doing an illegality if they were to  reject an application on grounds that are not contemplated by the law, and if the owner of the Kids Korner could put a convincing argument that the a lawful possible use for that site was residential and no one stepped forward with a stronger argument then there&#039;s nothing extraordinary in the fact that the application was consented.

The recent application for new built on the Kids Korner site saw popular reaction led by a Liberal Democrat, i.e. me.
The leaflets distributed around the neighbourhood explaining why that corner was important for the locality that moved 49 people to write in objections to the development were my brainchild, the content was my vision, but in an individual nature, not as a Libdem.
Likewise I wrote the petition to oppose it and pretty much all of the literature of the campaign for the transformation of the Kids Korner into an Arts and Commuit Centre. 
I also set up the residents&#039; association &quot;Hither Green Community Hall and Arts Society&quot; to produce events like the recent cinema day, an association that is obviously missing from the area and whose existance is a precondition to using the Kids Korner building for the arts as until  now  there wasn&#039;t a residents&#039; group to ask for it, hence the lack of opposition to the planning application of 2006.

Speaking of the Loampit Vale site the two Liberal Democrats sitting on the Strategic Planning Committee voted against it. A third Liberal Democrat, Cllr Milton, not a member of the committee, spoke against it as Local Councillor, I also spoke against it.
The panel was split 3 votes for and 3 against and so the planning application was consented on the vote of the Chair of the committtee.
But I had already made a detailed report of that committee here on this blog. Click on the Loampit Vale tag below the post or in the tag cloud to see all my posts about this development, I think that this blog together with the previous blog www.saveladywellpool.com are the places where you&#039;ll find the most exaustive information about this development (for the Kids Korner see hithergreenhall.org , also full of content by yours truly).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi  Ian,</p>
<p>first of all we should not mix Councillors voting as members of a planning committee and a party policies.<br />
Planning committees (and licensing committees) are the two quasi-judicial committees of the Council and members are free to vote as they wish, their position is similar to those of Court Jurors as just like Courts they rule over private matters. it&#8217;s illegal for a party to put party pressure on an individual member to vote in a specific way at a planning committee.</p>
<p>The planning consent given in 2006 to the Kids Korner was given for the conversion of the existing building into residential on condition it would keep  the present look on the high street.<br />
I think it&#8217;s regrettable that such consent was given but those that are most to blame are the planning officers.<br />
They go through the applications with the developers, advise them how to best present it, push for housing and give advise to members on how to vote and please note how to vote within the law.<br />
If the officers&#8217; advise does not contains ground for rejection and the objections don&#8217;t give ground for legally rejecting a planning application then committee members will have a hard time try to reject an application. They would in fact be doing an illegality if they were to  reject an application on grounds that are not contemplated by the law, and if the owner of the Kids Korner could put a convincing argument that the a lawful possible use for that site was residential and no one stepped forward with a stronger argument then there&#8217;s nothing extraordinary in the fact that the application was consented.</p>
<p>The recent application for new built on the Kids Korner site saw popular reaction led by a Liberal Democrat, i.e. me.<br />
The leaflets distributed around the neighbourhood explaining why that corner was important for the locality that moved 49 people to write in objections to the development were my brainchild, the content was my vision, but in an individual nature, not as a Libdem.<br />
Likewise I wrote the petition to oppose it and pretty much all of the literature of the campaign for the transformation of the Kids Korner into an Arts and Commuit Centre.<br />
I also set up the residents&#8217; association &#8220;Hither Green Community Hall and Arts Society&#8221; to produce events like the recent cinema day, an association that is obviously missing from the area and whose existance is a precondition to using the Kids Korner building for the arts as until  now  there wasn&#8217;t a residents&#8217; group to ask for it, hence the lack of opposition to the planning application of 2006.</p>
<p>Speaking of the Loampit Vale site the two Liberal Democrats sitting on the Strategic Planning Committee voted against it. A third Liberal Democrat, Cllr Milton, not a member of the committee, spoke against it as Local Councillor, I also spoke against it.<br />
The panel was split 3 votes for and 3 against and so the planning application was consented on the vote of the Chair of the committtee.<br />
But I had already made a detailed report of that committee here on this blog. Click on the Loampit Vale tag below the post or in the tag cloud to see all my posts about this development, I think that this blog together with the previous blog <a href="http://www.saveladywellpool.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.saveladywellpool.com</a> are the places where you&#8217;ll find the most exaustive information about this development (for the Kids Korner see hithergreenhall.org , also full of content by yours truly).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Public meeting on Loampit Vale by Ian Crabb</title>
		<link>http://maxink.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/public-meeting-on-loampit-vale/#comment-1915</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Crabb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>max

will the liberal democrats vote for the loampit vale project then campaign against it in leaflets?

because with kidz korner you voted for it to be turned into flats, now you are against it becoming flats.

IAN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>max</p>
<p>will the liberal democrats vote for the loampit vale project then campaign against it in leaflets?</p>
<p>because with kidz korner you voted for it to be turned into flats, now you are against it becoming flats.</p>
<p>IAN</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Springbank Road by Clare</title>
		<link>http://maxink.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/on-springbank-road/#comment-1896</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks great, so much better than before. Well done everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks great, so much better than before. Well done everyone!</p>
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		<title>Comment on We must stop dogfighting (with poll!) by 8 ouf 10 cats think that dog ownership should be licenced &#171; .</title>
		<link>http://maxink.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/we-must-stop-dogfighting-with-poll/#comment-1895</link>
		<dc:creator>8 ouf 10 cats think that dog ownership should be licenced &#171; .</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dog ownership should be&#160;licenced By Max  Since I&#8217;m starting a new poll I close this one (link to the original post). The result is that 10 people voted and 8 voted yes, dog owners should have a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] dog ownership should be&nbsp;licenced By Max  Since I&#8217;m starting a new poll I close this one (link to the original post). The result is that 10 people voted and 8 voted yes, dog owners should have a [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Out and about with James &#8211; weekend roundup by Max</title>
		<link>http://maxink.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/out-and-about-with-james-weekend-roundup/#comment-1888</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He he. quite right. I visit that blog quite often actually, must put a permanent link  to the sidebar. I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll get at least a nomination if I go on like this. It&#039;s a face that&#039;s adequate to the site though, I&#039;m not overdoing it. 
And I&#039;m afraid with that photo you have no chances to be featured there,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He he. quite right. I visit that blog quite often actually, must put a permanent link  to the sidebar. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll get at least a nomination if I go on like this. It&#8217;s a face that&#8217;s adequate to the site though, I&#8217;m not overdoing it.<br />
And I&#8217;m afraid with that photo you have no chances to be featured there,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Out and about with James &#8211; weekend roundup by Andrew Brown</title>
		<link>http://maxink.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/out-and-about-with-james-weekend-roundup/#comment-1887</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should you get elected I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll fit in very well with &lt;a href=&quot;http://glumcouncillors.tumblr.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this lot&lt;/a&gt;, I on the other hand &lt;a href=&quot;http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/andrewkirbybrown/BloggerPictures?authkey=Gv1sRgCNzEjoCllNGMAQ#5305215031051853922&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;did not&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should you get elected I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll fit in very well with <a href="http://glumcouncillors.tumblr.com/" rel="nofollow">this lot</a>, I on the other hand <a href="http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/andrewkirbybrown/BloggerPictures?authkey=Gv1sRgCNzEjoCllNGMAQ#5305215031051853922" rel="nofollow">did not</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spectacular success for Hither Green cinema day by Jackson</title>
		<link>http://maxink.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/spectacular-success-for-hither-green-cinema-day/#comment-1882</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to this and was bowled over. The silent movie with piano accompaniment was fantastically atmospheric. People chatted to each other, and Hither Green felt like a community again. I&#039;ll definitely be going to more of these. Well done guys. Keep up the good work. Jackson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to this and was bowled over. The silent movie with piano accompaniment was fantastically atmospheric. People chatted to each other, and Hither Green felt like a community again. I&#8217;ll definitely be going to more of these. Well done guys. Keep up the good work. Jackson</p>
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		<title>Comment on Objection to 24 hour off-license application by Max</title>
		<link>http://maxink.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/objection-to-24-hour-off-license-application/#comment-1881</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the list, very interesting. I see that none of them is in walking distance from St Mungo&#039;s so this objection is still very much valid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the list, very interesting. I see that none of them is in walking distance from St Mungo&#8217;s so this objection is still very much valid.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Objection to 24 hour off-license application by Andrew Clark</title>
		<link>http://maxink.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/objection-to-24-hour-off-license-application/#comment-1879</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the London Borough of Lewisham there are already over 20 premises that are licensed to sell alcohol 24 hours a day for consumption off premises. 

For a full list of 24 hour off-licences in Lewisham, see http://www.24houralcohol.co.uk/lewisham-off-licences</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the London Borough of Lewisham there are already over 20 premises that are licensed to sell alcohol 24 hours a day for consumption off premises. </p>
<p>For a full list of 24 hour off-licences in Lewisham, see <a href="http://www.24houralcohol.co.uk/lewisham-off-licences" rel="nofollow">http://www.24houralcohol.co.uk/lewisham-off-licences</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Parking honeytrap &#8211; question by Out and about with James &#8211; weekend roundup &#171; .</title>
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		<dc:creator>Out and about with James &#8211; weekend roundup &#171; .</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] month I submitted a question at Council about it and honestly I didn&#8217;t expect Lewisham Council to just copy and paste from an email [...]</description>
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